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| Posted: 21 Oct 2008 11:19 |
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Nobody cares Tim. It bombed at the box office. Ben Stein blows. Except for Ferris Bueller. He was asked if had received any death threats for decrying science and he said no. Bill Maher receives death threats all the time for decrying religion. Can you explain that?
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| Posted: 21 Oct 2008 12:01 |
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Maher's actually a threat to his competition?
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Nobody cares Tim. It bombed at the box office.
Its cause what people want to see nowadays are those stupid comedies. There arent many that would want to sit through a two hour documentary. Sad isn't it?
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| Posted: 21 Oct 2008 19:33 |
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documentary Are you kidding me? There's a difference between a documentary and propoganda. For one thing, documentaries are educational. Quote:
Maher's actually a threat to his competition? I guess. You'd think that a group of people who are so certain that they're right wouldn't be so threatened. Quote:
what people want to see nowadays are those stupid comedies Yeah, that must be why nobody went. They were all out seeing Superbad. Nice lame ass excuse SR. But then again, guys like you are full of them aren't you?
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| Posted: 21 Oct 2008 20:09 |
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There arent many that would want to sit through a two hour documentary.
Aside from the steady diet of comic book films we've had recently(that I've jumped on like an addict), I do. I'm actually looking forward to renting this one too. Stein's an intelligent man, even while I completely disagree with his project.
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| Posted: 21 Oct 2008 20:12 |
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You surprise me, Pak.
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| Posted: 21 Oct 2008 20:18 |
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You've been here long enough and I'm not that complex at all. Really.
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| Posted: 21 Oct 2008 20:33 |
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It might be good for a laugh. I might be willing to sit thru it if I can come back here and just trash it. 
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| Posted: 21 Oct 2008 20:37 |
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Of course. 
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| Posted: 21 Oct 2008 21:05 |
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Maybe Bill Mauler gets death threats because he has such a personality that angers people to the point of violence. You know maybe he's just a jerk. It's not always what you say, but how you say it that makes people mad.
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| Posted: 21 Oct 2008 21:08 |
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Nah, he has a spotlight and a message and he's a threat to the religious right.
Atheists aren't pounding down Stein's door-why would we?
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| Posted: 21 Oct 2008 21:16 |
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Dude, Bill is out to tick people off. It's not like he says all that from some sort of love and compassion for Christians. It doesn't take much to make people mad if that's what you want, and that's what he's out to do. He wants to get people's dander up. It's only way he can earn money.
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It doesn't take much to make people mad if that's what you want, and that's what he's out to do. He wants to get people's dander up. It's only way he can earn money.
That is exactly the case for Rush and O'Reilly, Hannity, Cafferty and Olberman.
Maher, much like Jon Stewart, at least has the nerve and honesty to call himself an entertainer-he's a comedian with a talk show and doesn't pretend to be anything else unlike the rest of the clown collage.
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That is exactly the case for Rush and O'Reilly, Hannity, Cafferty and Olberman. Not necessarily. They don't make fun of people for their faith. They make fun of politicians primarily not usually groups of people. Well of course they make fun of liberals, but politics is not supposed to be as important to a person as their religion.
When you attack somebody's religion you are attacking them, and I'm not talking about simply disagreeing with somebody's religious practice I'm talking about this angry mocking that tries to destroy someone's belief system by pretending they are just stupid for not going Mauler's way.
It's not stupid to believe in God. It's stupid to base one's arguments completely on mockery and nothing else. And yet not to confuse the matter there is nothing wrong with good natured humor as long as it's good natured.
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It doesn't take much to make people mad if that's what you want, and that's what he's out to do. He wants to get people's dander up. It's only way he can earn money.
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That is exactly the case for Rush and O'Reilly, Hannity, Cafferty and Olberman.
That doesn't change because of subject matter. It is still true.
To further the point, scrutiny of something or pointing out an inherant flaw in something are not attacks. Further, saying something about a group is not always a comment on the members of the group.
He's a comedian so it's going to come out as mockery. He doesNOT make fun of anyone for their beliefs-he makes fun of them when they turn out to be hypocrites or questionably and demonstrably insane. This is true that this is what he is paid for-he does it well and his targets deserve it. Rush and O'Reilly are paid very similarly for riling up conservatives and attacking whoever serves that end. Cafferty and Olberman are the flip side of their coin. It is all exactly the same game they are playing-news entertainment.
You want to applaud and cite the antics of Rush and O'Reily and others like them? You pay the price by getting not only Cafferty and Olberman and those like them, but Maher and Jon Stewart and those like them. Want some of them to go away? Stop watching any of them and convince everyone you know to do the same.
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I never watch Maher and Stewart, but they still don't go away.
My point is still valid. Rush and them aren't attacking people personally for their religion. Maher would think I was a nut for going to church on Sunday, reading my Bible, and daring to pray everyday.
I don't always agree with O'Reilly and Rush you know. I do a lot, but not like they are some kind of deity.
Rush's politics are pretty sound, but I'm sure he wouldn't agree with me on lifestyle for instance. He needs to take up some kind of exercise program. His choice but it just goes to show you. Nobody agree on everything.
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I never watch Maher and Stewart, but they still don't go away.
You're missing the point. You have to take away viewership and listeners from all of them, to make them all go away. That means to stop those two, you have to give up Rush, O'Reilly and your favorite entertainers. Otherwise, they're all here to stay.
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Maher would think I was a nut for going to church on Sunday, reading my Bible, and daring to pray everyday.
When he attacks you directly on air for these things, get back to me. Otherwise, put away the hurt feelings card, please.
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Rush's politics are pretty sound,
Rush is feeding you shit, and you devour it. He's an entertainer, designed to incite you with spin and propaganda and bluster. Try listening to your own heart instead of this windbag-you may find you disagree on a lot of things with just a little introspection.
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Otherwise, put away the hurt feelings card, please. It's not a hurt feelings card, it's a angry card.
Rush is right when he's right, and he's wrong when he's wrong. I can tell the difference by just listening and paying attention and not assuming I know before I hear him out.
Again I don't feel personally attacked when I listen to Rush. He's never mocking Christianity, or acting like I'm stupid for holding my beliefs.
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No, it's the hurt feelings card and if it pains you so what Maher says, change the channel.
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| Posted: 23 Oct 2008 21:07 |
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No it feels a lot more like being really pissed off.
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Enjoy being pissed off then or change the channel.
When you state on here that you're personally being attacked by an entertainer who doesn't know you from a hole in the ground, that's hurt feelings.
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Whatever dude, but usually when a guy says something I don't like at me, I just get ticked. The only times I get hurt feelings is if my wife were to yell at me. Which she wouldn't. Ok sometimes she might. See I'm brutally honest.
But officially Bill Mauler can kiss my butt.
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Doubly noted.
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when you attack someones religion you are attacking them Reaaly? What about when you attack their sexuality?
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| Posted: 27 Oct 2008 12:14 |
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Part of the same parcel spock. They don't attack anyone, their book does. Watch the replies, if you get any.
For some real fun spock, ask these guys about slavery in the Bible. If they even recognize it's in there, they'll tell you that Jesus took care of all that on Calgary. (now here's the fun part) Now have them explain why Jesus didn't take away the anti-gay part too. Welcome to the double talk express.
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Funny I've been over all this before. Nice try. You say everything I say is double talk while you double talk.
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Reaaly? What about when you attack their sexuality? That's like attacking someone for their bowling. It's nowhere near as personal as the media tries to make it.
God made man to have a natural affection for a woman and a desire to protect and love his wife. You can believe whatever you want to, but I'm not buying into this modern day bs about gay rights and hurt gay feelings blah blah blah.
Men are competition. Men are heroes. Men are comrades. Men are enemies, but men are never ever something another man should want to be all dopey lovey dovey over. That's like kissing a dog or a tree.
Part of the problem we have nowadays is boys that were given barbie dolls to play with as kids instead of toy guns and footballs. Fathers that were never around. Media propaganda. These things have caused the backwards insane mentality we as a nation have right now.
Give me the old days when men wearing dresses or marrying was just a punch line in a comedic sketch.
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You say everything I say is double talk while you double talk.
Actually, it was not directed at you specifically, but since you answered, why not refute what I said then?
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That's like attacking someone for their bowling. It's nowhere near as personal as the media tries to make it. Really? A persons sexual preference is not a personnel thing? How do you figure that? As for the rest of your post... this is why I say it's doubtful that we'll learn anything from each other. Now the problem is dolls?? You are so clueless Tim.
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I'm sorry did your mommy give you dolls to play with?
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