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| Posted: 11 Jul 2008 20:40 |
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Dozens of German politicians have tabled a new law to extend voting rights to babies, toddlers, children and teenagers.
Come on, surely they aren't that stupid. It's got to be a joke right?
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| Posted: 11 Jul 2008 21:25 |
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To Tim: maybe they should have an age of accountability. They can make hard informed choices when they're about 7 right?
To you preach: Thats a great argument against total democracy and why an absolute never works.
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| Posted: 12 Jul 2008 01:02 |
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I even doubted if the article was real, but it's on the Telegraph UK website.
And the real world is full of arguments against a total democracy.
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| Posted: 12 Jul 2008 01:09 |
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I think what we need for any form of government to work now is an informed public with a presence at the 'decision table'. I don't want anyone speaking for me, imbecile or politician. I can speak for myself.
__________________But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
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| Posted: 12 Jul 2008 01:13 |
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I think most of the population is too apathetic or too ill-informed to cast a quality vote. I also think that condition has been cultivated by those in power for at least 40 years now.
But then again , I'm a cynic.
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| Posted: 12 Jul 2008 01:38 |
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I also think that condition has been cultivated by those in power for at least 40 years now.
Exactly the problem.
__________________But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
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So how do you fix it? Can you fix it? It's easy to say 'revolution', but you need a certain percentage of public support for that to be viable, and most of the time, what comes out of a revolution is worse than what you started with.
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| Posted: 12 Jul 2008 16:02 |
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I'd never say revolution except as a very last resort.
How do we make concern and education infectious to the general public without that becoming a new problem?
__________________But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
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| Posted: 13 Jul 2008 04:44 |
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I have no idea, we can't even make it infectious to some of the contributors to this site!
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| Posted: 13 Jul 2008 04:58 |
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No excuses. 
__________________But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
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| Posted: 13 Jul 2008 22:07 |
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Guys, I think the point we can learn from this is to never ever listen to people from Europe on political matters.
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| Posted: 13 Jul 2008 23:47 |
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I see what you mean preach. We can get around that. Still no excuses.
__________________But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
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