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| Posted: 17 Oct 2007 21:09 |
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Hillary trying to copy Bush in her own way. Not only as she been pushing 401 ks, but she into phone tapping. Of course in her case it's all for personal gain.
Republicans plan to skewer presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton over her position on government surveillance, capitalizing on allegations in a recent book that Clinton listened to a secretly recorded conversation between political opponents.
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/hillary_snooping/2007/10/16/41 ...
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| Posted: 17 Oct 2007 21:48 |
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Hilarious. Does anyone else here remember me warning Tim about the legal precedent set by Bush with the phone tapping? I swear I did not start this post by hacking Tim's account- he really just posted what I said he was going to post. It is a year or two earlier than I expected, but paranoia has apparently sped up the process. Whatever it takes, I guess.
Tim, as much as I trust NewsMax- I'm still thinking the contents of this post are anything but proven. However, you are so close to making the appropriate connection here- go on and take that leap...
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YOU CAN'T JUST GIVE HE GOVERNMENT UNRESTRAINED UNCHECKED POWER TO SPY ON PEOPLE.
Bush, Hillary- it don't matter. If they are D or R, sooner or later someone will abuse an unchecked wiretapping program, if they haven't already.
Now if you'll excuse me- I've got to get back to work- but I'll be sure to check in and thank you over in the other thread for making my point about fiscal responsibility. Hopefully i won't have to go looking for more facts to demonstrate again for you how your buddy Reagan never heard of it...
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| Posted: 17 Oct 2007 21:57 |
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Well Danny as I've said a long time ago, Bush tapping phones of terrorist never bothered me. Anybody tapping for political gain is another matter. That's kind of reminscent of that whole watergate scandal in a way. People misuing power for political gain is a definite no no.
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| Posted: 17 Oct 2007 22:15 |
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Bush tapping phones of terrorist never bothered me.
OK, so scandal after scandal oozes out of this White House, and you don't believe that the Bushies haven't tapped the phones of political enemies? Even though they won't comply with Congressional inquiries into it? Even if you've got a broad swath of conservatives saying the same thing Danny, pak and I have been saying? You don't think there could be a grain of truth? Enough to look into it?
It's one thing to have beliefs, but you prop people up who act in direct opposition to those beliefs.
As far as Hillary, I certainly don't put it past the Clintons, but I'll wait to see more of the facts as the contents come out. I don't count it out, however.
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| Posted: 17 Oct 2007 23:46 Last Edited By: Tim |
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Well you get proof that Bush listened in to his political enemies. I mean real proof, then I'll believe it. Everyone is innoccent till proven guilty. As far as is it being impossible for me to believe Bush could do that. Of course I don't believe that, but I'm just going on what I know. I'm not conjuring up imaginary plots without evidence.
I sure wouldn't bet the farm on any politician's morality, but I wouldn't even bet your farm on Hillary's honesty.
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| Posted: 18 Oct 2007 00:16 |
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I mean real proof, then I'll believe it. Does it have to come from NewsMax?
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Everyone is innoccent till proven guilty.
Everyone = Hillary?
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I'm not conjuring up imaginary plots without evidence.
NewsMax?
From a non-biased source, please explain why you think H.Clinton is untrustworthy. Policy differences do not count.
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| Posted: 18 Oct 2007 00:34 |
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I don't trust her. Big, big bad gut feeling about her. Plus the fact there's always controversial stuff going on with the clintons. Shady characters, people stealing files, and on and on. A lot of crooks seem to work with the clintons. You ever notice that especially in the area of getting elected.
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| Posted: 18 Oct 2007 02:27 |
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From a non-biased source, please explain why you think H.Clinton is untrustworthy.
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| Posted: 18 Oct 2007 03:16 |
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The issue (at least for me) was not what our president was breaking the law for, just that he was breaking the law and apparently will get away with it.
When they do their little sweeps, you might be in the net yourself someday sir. On that particular day, I honestly hope you don't slip up and say one of the particular things they look for in the sweep or you might get mistaken for the enemy. How will you prove your innocence if already determined guilty and no civil rights to speak of.
That's a silly argument. I'm sorry. You're totally in support of Bush-it's all over your file and this site. You'll be fine. Unless Billary gets back in office....and as a Bush supporter you might be flagged as a possible threat...
That's crazy too. Ain't it?
Real glad you guys only have my first name on here.
Good luck.
I mean it.
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| Posted: 19 Oct 2007 19:28 |
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I support Bush when he does things I agree with. I don't trust hillary because she's a hippy pretending to be conservative. I'd rather have edwards than hillary. Obamas a racist, but I think I might like him better in the white house.
Fred Thomspson or Mike Huckabee all the way!
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