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Tim, i just had a few religious questions. you other religious reps can jump in too. is masturbation a sin? (i'm in BIG trouble if it is) is it a sin to masturbate about gay stuff? is premarital sex a sin? did jesus pleasure himself? did he die a virgin? (this is assuming he actually existed) the bible condones slavery, so why do you not? or do you?? is a woman a "slut" or a "harlot" if she has premarital sex? what about if she only does oral?  what is the churches position on anal sex...with a woman? should muslims just die already?  inquiring minds wanna know. should mexican border jumpers be shot on sight?  should a woman be forced to give birth even if it might kill her? why is the church SO afraid of sex but they have no problem with violence?
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Dude, you are smoking something, ain't you?
Ok, I'll play along a little bit anyway.
Sex between a husband and wife is right. All things according to scripture between a husband and wife in their bed is righteous. I don't really want to know what it is you fantasize about.
Jesus was God. He never married, He never sinned. He never had a evil thought. If He wasn't 100 percent perfect then He couldn't have paid the penalty for our sins. He would have had his own sins to pay for.
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the bible condones slavery The bible does mention slavery. First the kind of forced slavery we Americans had is clearly looked down on by God. The Israeilites were slaves in Egypt against their will, and guess what happened to Pharoah. He drowned chasing them.
Anyway when the Bible speaks of acceptable slavery it's more by the ok of the person. More of work contract. In the old testament if a person owed money and couldn't pay it, he'd work off his debt, but after 7 years even if he still owed money. All was forgiven. At that point he could choose to go free or stay and of course not have to worry about room and board ever again. That's the gist of it anyway.
Kidnapping someone and forcing them to work is not condoned in the Bible anywhere.
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woman be forced to give birth even if it might kill her? No, but that's an overused bit by abortion right's activist. If a woman can't go through child birth for instance and she's already months down the line. Killing the baby isn't going to help her out. The baby has to come out anyway, might as well come out alive right? As if killing the baby would make it easier.
Nobody wants to say that if it's impossible for a mother to give birth safely then she has to anyway. Nobody to my knowledge ever says that. Why is it always the first thing abortionist say?
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why is the church SO afraid of sex but they have no problem with violence? I have no problem with sex in marriage. I have no problem with cartoon violence or action movie violence. I do have a problem with slasher films that I feel over time make a person cold to the life of another human.
Hey feel free to ask tough questions, but do me a favor and don't do it if you just want something to mock Christianity over. If you sincerely want to know. I'm glad to give you my two cents worth.
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Nobody wants to say that if it's impossible for a mother to give birth safely then she has to anyway. Nobody to my knowledge ever says that.
The federal partial birth abortion ban has no health provision for the health of the mother. That procedure, as grim as it is, is supposed to be reserved for the health of the mother.
So, the majority of Republicans in the last Congress said exactly that. The three lawsuits filed against the law cited that there was no provision for the woman's health.
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brokebackmoutian the only collection you have ever seen of mine is the nude pics of your wife i have before you traded her for heath ledger...quit fronting as a straight man in front of these liberals,CA is always all over your nuts!!!!i think he likes the taste
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CA is always all over your nuts!
Dude, what the hell do you bring here, other than threats you can't follow up on and 7th grade insults. What a cunt.
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cunt. as a 7th grade insult guy im not sure what that word means???
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as a 7th grade insult guy im not sure what that word means??? That's what you were last night....
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| Posted: 04 Oct 2007 19:14 Last Edited By: Tim |
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Hey Tim is it also a sin to have the thought of blowing up Canada????? Well I can't find a verse that says it is. Just kidding.
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The federal partial birth abortion ban has no health provision for the health of the mother. That procedure, as grim as it is, is supposed to be reserved for the health of the mother.
It's like I said bud, if the baby has to come out early how would it help the mother to kill the baby first and then bring him into the world, or kill the baby after he or she is already out which I'm sure has happened.
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ouch!!!!my 7th grade insult mentality cant hold to your big bad insults.i didnt know you could get to D.C so fast and jump into the bed with CA!!
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| Posted: 04 Oct 2007 19:18 |
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Dudes, to be honest I'm used to running kid friendly type sites, you know superhero and tv show stuff, this is the first time I've went with all political type site. So I'm not sure mind you, but I kind of fear going to far with the language. I don't know if someone would take some of this stuff out of context and call us a hate site or something. I definitely don't want that.
I can't say it would happen, but look what they did to Rush over the phoney soldier statement he made about a guy that was only in the military for 45 days. Things tend to get taken out of context quite often these days. The dems have been trying to pull Rush off the air. I'd hate for somebody to try and shut us down.
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Well I can't find a verse that says it is. Just kidding. Quote:
Hey Tim is it also a sin to have the thought of blowing up Canada????? Me too !!!! It is only across the water for me though......tempting just joking
shutup boogie
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| Posted: 04 Oct 2007 19:36 |
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Dude, what the hell do you bring here, other than threats you can't follow up on and 7th grade insults.
Logically speaking, there's no way to be sure he isn't in the 7th grade. He'd have to be home sick by the old standards- but a lot of schools give kids laptops these days, so there's a healthy chance our friend Booger is tunning out history lessons both literally and figuratively.
Also, there is certainly a corelation between the appearence of the new icons and the appearence of Booger. Correlation does not imply causation- but there he is...
So can we lose the icons? At least before we start attracting entire middle schools?
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boogerman is funny. kinda stupid... but funny. hockeyman, what does MOAB stand for? Mothers Of Aborted Babies???
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So can we lose the icons? The icons shouldn't effect your ability to communicate. It's just here to lighten things up a little bit.
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| Posted: 04 Oct 2007 19:47 |
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Tim, they're lame. Really lame.
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tim the only people going to want to shut down the site are danny,zod,and CA's friends. Quote:
causation you got me there...id look it up but im not going to waste my time.glad you think im funny,i cant stand canadians but ill keep this up if it amusses you!
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tim the only people going to want to shut down the site are danny,zod,and CA's friends. Well you know there might be somebody out there just browsing by that might take something said out of context.
The libs here love to argue as much as we do. They don't want to lose a good forum for discussion. It's like without the libs who do we argue with, and the libs know without conservatives they don't have anybody to argue with. Unless they start on each other.
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The libs here love to argue as much as we do. They don't want to lose a good forum for discussion. It's like without the libs who do we argue with, and the libs know without conservatives they don't have anybody to argue with.
Well, that is...sorta how a democracy works. Good post(?)
In any case Tim, I do thank you for the site, but the icons are truely sent from hell.
I especially hate the green lazer one as if it were a living person who cut in front of me in the supermarket or tried to become "best friends" with my girlfriend.
All the same, it IS your site so do with as ye may.
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Well as long as it doesn't run you off, I would like to have a few smiling faces around.
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but I kind of fear going to far with the language Sorry Tim i'll have a talk with boogieman this weekend and try to get this to stop
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what does MOAB stand for? Mothers Of Aborted Babies??? I dont know why i bother anyway it's Mother of all bombs which needs to be used in Iraq!!!!
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ahh, thank you.
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| Posted: 05 Oct 2007 10:55 |
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tim, i wouldn't want to shut this site down. i like it. why do you feel it's your place to tell people what they can or can't do with their body? you tell homos that what they do is bad and if you could outlaw it you would. you'd outlaw someone from mercy killing their severely retarded or their brain dead or "constantly in pain" family member. you try and tell women that they can't have abortions. regardless of what the circumstances are. i mean, even if the chick was a rich, twentysomething woman. so she's got money to support the baby and she's old enough. it's still her right to abort the fetus if she chooses. you don't even figure into it at all. butt out. and you say slasher films desensitize people. there is evidence to support that. i even agree with the theory. but you love action films and they do the same thing. the violence is all glamorized and sexualized. but part of the problem is americans take their movies too seriously. that and there are lots of stupid people in your country. no offence. really. but i would estimate that 35% of your population is below average intelligence. lots in the big cities like LA and NY, but lots in the south too. lots in the south. at least 1/4 of the population is retarded i think. that's about the amount of the population that thinks the US gov.t was involved in 9-11. so there you go. i mean, you've got guys running for president of the country, who don't believe in evolution. and it's not so much that they don't believe evolution, it's what they believe in as an alternative. i mean, if there was an alternative theory to evolution that had just as much scientific study backing said theory... well that would be different. but god?? i mean, the bible isn't supposed to be taken literally. did a guy named jonah REALLY live in the belly of a whale? did a guy named moses REALLY build a huge boat and then get 2 of all the animals in the WHOLE world to board it? he was in the dessert...how did he get polar bears and penguins? there are NO mountain gorillas in jerusalem. and was woman REALLY created from a rib?? i mean, c'mon tim, you don't REALLY believe all that stuff REALLY happened do you? do you believe in beanstalks and giants too? oh wait, you do believe in giants. i forgot about davie boy and goliath. you must believe in zombies too. jesus was a zombie. he returned from the dead. what are your thoughts?
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why do you feel it's your place to tell people what they can or can't do with their body? I'm not sure that I have really. Have I at any place suggested we make it illegal? You assume I'd make it illegal, but all I've suggested is that we protect the freedom to speak out against immorality, and that it doesn't invade schools. Where have I suggested we need a law to ban it?
I just don't want it in my face that's all. If they made it illegal I wouldn't cry a river mind you, but that's not my biggest concern. I just want to know my freedoms are being stifled, and that junk isn't getting promoted to people that might not otherwise even consider it like mixed up teenagers searching for their identity in life which is a load of crap really. Don't you hate it when someone says, I'm searching for myself. I want to say, let me know when you find yourself. Maybe you're hiding over there in the bushes.
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you'd outlaw someone from mercy killing their severely retarded or their brain dead or "constantly in pain" family member yeah, I would at that. All life is precious. I noticed you at first wrote retarded as a stipulation for murdering a person. What's next kill all the F students?
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it's still her right to abort the fetus if she chooses What about the baby's rights. How can you be so sure that the baby doesn't feel anything, or that the baby isn't alive, and don't most responsible adults know how to use birth control by now? Can we not assume some level of intelligence on people or some level of responsibility?
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love action films and they do the same thing. the violence is all glamorized and sexualized The difference is they don't hold the camera on a man while his intestines are hanging out for 10 minutes. The point of the movie is the action of the hero, not the suffering of the villain. At least that's why I watch them. I don't dig suffering. I'm all for watching a hero shoot a bad guy, he falls down, and we never see the bad guy again. I don't need to see frame by frame every agonizing second of their death. It's too realistic and not necessary. After all the purpose of a movie is to entertain.
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but i would estimate that 35% of your population is below average intelligence. I'll humor you for a second and say that's true. Just how do you know you are above their intelligence? Have you taken a test? What about your fellow Canucks? Just how do you arrive at this determination? Are you talking about knowledge or wisdom? Do you know the difference? And for the record I think it's stupid to believe you came from a monkey because some old guy had a stupid theory. I've went over this a million times, and you'll probably ignore it, but you know you can't tell me how nothing can create something. No big bang could have even happened without existing materials present, and you have to answer that one. Just because you can regurgatate what you read in a text book doesn't make you more intelligent. I believe everything the bible says, because I believe God can do everything. The existence of an all powerful being is the only one that explains the existance of our world. It couldn't have happened any other way. There has to be a supernatural explanation to explain how you can start with absolutely nothing and end up with an entire universe. Think about it for a second. How do you explain that scientifically?
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did a guy named moses REALLY build a huge boat and then get 2 of all the animals in the WHOLE world to board it? he was in the dessert...how did he get polar bears and penguins? there are NO mountain gorillas in jerusalem How did Jesus turn the water into wine, or feed all those people with a handfull of fish and bread? He's God. That's the point. He can do anything.
Jesus is in heaven and in the heart of every believer. For your sake I hope you get to know him someday, but it's your choice. He doesn't make anyone believe.
Now humor me and answer at least some of my responses before you ask me more.
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tim, first off, you WANNA ban abortion, assisted suicide and gayes. are you telling me i'm wrong? do you not? you don't have to come out and actually say it for it to be true. i know it's true because i read your posts and i hear your responses to these issues. secondly, we're NOT talking about midly retarded, down syndrome type of people here. we're talking about SEVERELY retarded people who can't eat on their own, who can't piss and shit on their own and who can't walk or talk. people that are completely helpless and will never have a good quality of life. as if you're comparing those people to F students. get real. and hey, if my mom is sick and in constant pain and i wanna end her suffering and she wants me to end her suffering, that's OUR right. who the hell are you to come along and tell her she can't end HER life because of your outdated belief system. buzz off. thirdly, a woman has the right to choose what she is gonna do with her body. it's that simple. it's not for you to decide. fourth, you proved my point. having a guy get shot and then fall off the screen and you never see him again is EXACTLY what desensitizes people to violence. having bruce willis kill a bunch of guys, show almost no blood and then crack a joke is worse than anything you would see in a movie like, say, Saving Private Ryan. fifth, you talk about reading textbooks and not believing everything in them, yet you believe everything written in the bible. you believe in magic basically. that makes no sense. your post is so full of contradictions.
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tim, first off, you WANNA ban abortion, assisted suicide and gayes. are you telling me i'm wrong? do you not? I want to ban abortion and assisted suicides. I haven't put much thought to banning gays. I'd rather hope they get saved. I don't think I've ever said we should put gay people into prison. You just don't like anybody making a moral stand on anything. You're problem is with Christianity, and you like to stretch things out a mite. I'm sorry, but you can't paint me as some Christian Nazi running around shooting people on one hand and fighting to save lives on the other. I'm pro-life except for murderers. You lose your right to life when you take someone elses. And like I said new laws is the last thing I want in our society right now. Just leave marriage alone, don't teach kids perverted sex, cut out the politics of it, and we are cool. Just don't really want to see a guy walking down my street wearing a dress though. Does that make me mean?
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if my mom is sick and in constant pain and i wanna end her suffering and she wants me to end her suffering, that's OUR right. who the hell are you to come along and tell her she can't end HER life because of your outdated belief system. buzz off
Ok, shoot your dam mom for all I care.. I try to be nice, and you keep pushing it. Dude, at least I didn't get my belief system from a drug induced hallucination.
I don't think it's good for a society to start justifing murder. You wouldn't even shoot a rattlesnake and you want to take a sick person's life.
Sometimes I wonder if this crap is doing anything but giving me high blood pressure. 
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If you were my kid, I'd shoot myself.
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