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| Posted: 02 Oct 2007 15:05 |
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According to the New York Times, a coalition of influential Christian conservatives opposes Giuliani because of his support for abortion rights.
The group includes Dr. James Dobson of Focus on the Family, Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council, and direct-mail pioneer Richard Viguerie.
They, and others, gathered in Salt Lake City over the weekend for a meeting of Council for National Policy. Participants in the meeting told the Times that the group has not yet identified an alternative third party candidate, but the group is largely united in its plans to bolt the GOP if Giuliani becomes its presidential candidate.
more at
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/giuliani_GOP_christians/2007/0 ...
I hope this moves the party toward a more conservative candidate. I'll be perfectly happy with Mike Huckabee or Fred Thompson. Those two would make a perfect team for the White House for that matter.
My guess is especially from listening to libs here is that Guiliani is not going to get a lot of lib votes even though he is more liberal, and moderates I think aren't going to be swayed by his liberalism either. The only chance republicans have is getting a candidate the whole party can get behind and really get excited about.
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| Posted: 02 Oct 2007 15:50 |
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I'm not expectign much out of the GOP this time around, and I probably have as many issues with Dr. Dobson as I do with Rudy. I'm a man without a country!
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| Posted: 02 Oct 2007 16:17 |
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There are maybe 4 libs on here Tim. Don't make guesses based on that alone.
__________________But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
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| Posted: 02 Oct 2007 16:39 |
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It's all I got to go on. It's just my political guesses.
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| Posted: 02 Oct 2007 19:13 |
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Read a newspaper or Newsweek. Watch CNN while you're trying to recruit us nonbelievers.
__________________But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
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| Posted: 02 Oct 2007 20:31 |
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Read a newspaper or Newsweek I'll save that for the next time I have to wait in a doctors office. You know by the time you leave you can have read every news magazine produced in the last year.
__________________Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
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| Posted: 02 Oct 2007 20:43 |
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Then you should go to the doctor's more often.
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| Posted: 03 Oct 2007 01:59 |
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Giuliani man i really really don't want this fool to win (look at me i'm the people's mayor blah blah blah i took care of 9-11 blah blah blah)
I myself feel bad about 9-11 and everything and i will never never forget the sacrafices made that day...
he didn't do a dagn thing he is a joke, and I'm a Rep. and i can't stand him
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| Posted: 03 Oct 2007 02:56 |
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True, Giuliani has a belief system that puts him left of even me on some things. But that doesn't bug me.
True, he often apes Bush with regard to national security policy. But ya can't beat the real thing. If think if the Bush people try to get a third term through Rudy, either the voters will stop them or reality will. Either way, we don't have the troops for more quagmires and Iraq isn't going anywhere- so 4 years of waiting game, IF he can beat the Clintons. Doubtful.
What bugs me about Giuliani is that he will not stop talking about 9/11 to get a vote. I'm apparently not the only one who finds this distasteful.
Many of the victims' families wish he would just shut up.
Rudy won't shut up about 9/11, but he usually doesn't mention how he screwed the pooch by putting the Office of Emergency Management in WTC 7, right next to a well known terrorist target.
The Emergency Alert System, that series of annoying tones over radio and television to let you know of an emergency (like, you know, a major terrorist attack on the US) didn't go off because the damn thing was on the roof of the building attacked. Ugh.
I don't expect the man to predict the future. I didn't know 9/11 would happen. But you don't just put all your emergency management personnel beside the site of a former terror attack. This was initiated in 1996, just THREE YEARS after the first attack!!
Why was the Mayor running around in the street that day?
Courage? Leadership?
Maybe. That, or... where else would he go? Home?
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| Posted: 03 Oct 2007 15:22 |
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Then you should go to the doctor's more often. You shouldn't post while drinking. 
__________________Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
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| Posted: 03 Oct 2007 15:23 |
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man i really really don't want this fool to win  Pray he doesn't.
__________________Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
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| Posted: 03 Oct 2007 15:31 |
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Danny, I have a gut feeling that if you really want to get out of Iraq vote for somebody like Thompson. I could be wrong, but he were to truly go the Reagan way. I think he'd look for a way to accomplish the mission and still have less of a threat to our troops.
I know Reagan would not allow Iraq to become a terrorist state, but to be honest I think if Reagan were prez now he would have gotten out by now, but like I said he would not have just cut and run he would have a long term strategy that accomplishes both goals. He was always thinking way ahead.
I think Thompson might be more in that sort of frame to want to keep the morale up while still kicking the tire out of the bad guys. Guiliani will probably stay the course, and I wouldn't completely rule out Hillary doing the same thing, although even though she says she won't cut and run it doesn't seem probably since her party wants out so bad.
You got to remember something. I personally don't care to leave iraq, but I sure think we need some long term planning. To just leave without a plan of some sort would be very bad. That place would be packed with terrorists training cells left to it's own devices.
__________________Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
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| Posted: 03 Oct 2007 15:46 |
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Reagan wouldn't have gone into Iraq.
Is till don't understand you mancrush on Thompson. What's he really done?
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| Posted: 03 Oct 2007 17:45 |
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Oh, I forgot: You have a mancrush on Reagan. Thompson's just a passing flirt.
As for the rest … yawn … chickenhawk business.
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| Posted: 03 Oct 2007 17:53 |
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Ohhh, douché …
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| Posted: 03 Oct 2007 17:58 |
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Sayyyyyy, don't speak french. I don't speak it.
__________________Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
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| Posted: 03 Oct 2007 18:03 |
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Neither do I, but a joke goes right over your head, I take it. I do like the emoticon flicking the bird.
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| Posted: 03 Oct 2007 18:09 |
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Dude, he's flicking me the bird. His index finger is curled down beside his thumb.
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| Posted: 03 Oct 2007 19:24 |
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 crazy man, crazy
__________________Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
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