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Posted:  02 Oct 2007 00:38
OOPS i didn't know he was talking to you Tim for some reason the first time i didn't see your post, sorry to you too Pat all i seen was mine then your post my bad I didn't mean to get in the middle of you two
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Posted:  02 Oct 2007 00:59   Last Edited By: GOParty
I think I just heard the real Captain America turn over in his grave!

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GOParty is a straight-up moron, and if he doesn't want to do his homework, f*ck him. I don't have time to play his BS game.


An atheist liberal calling ME a moron?
Boy, that's rich. You don't need to do homework to grasp reality. TV Networks & Newspapers are after ratings & circulation before anything else, and because of the 1st Amendment, they presume they can get away with their biased, one-sided coverage of the news, not bothering to report what goes right with a presidency, only splattering the cost of freedom across their banners.

And no Zod, I'm not kidding, merely telling the truth as I see it. The complete denial of reality is the cornerstone of liberalism! Money-hungry news sources only air/print sex & scandal because that's sure to sell!

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You know masturbation is a private activity right?

I AM WELL AWARE OF THAT, PAKRAT! Although it's obviously something no one ever told Bill Clinton, whose economic policies did nothing for anyone but Corporate America! But now that we know exactly what you have on your mind, I suggest you sign off, take care of your little bit of business, and go soak up some reality.

BTW Tim, I wish there was a stronger word to call these liberals than just HYPOCRITES. And hockey? I fully support our troops, keep up the good work!

GOParty
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Posted:  02 Oct 2007 01:12
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I fully support our troops,
thanks GO
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Posted:  02 Oct 2007 02:38
Thou shalt not kill is pretty straight-forward and to the point.

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the bad guys don't always listen so you have to teach them the hard way


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create for yourselves massive amounts of hypocrisy in the progress


I love when you blame others of something while doing it yourself.
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  02 Oct 2007 02:43
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merely telling the truth as I see it


If that bullshit list is the truth as you see it then back up your opinion with something near factual. Otherwise, while moron is a bit strong, going strictly by our dealings here, Cap was not that far off.
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  02 Oct 2007 15:28
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An atheist liberal calling ME a moron? 
Boy, that's rich. You don't need to do homework to grasp reality.


Exactly. It is good enough to just sit in one's basement and use the internet to explain why one particular group of people are all totally evil or delusional. None of them are right about anything! Ever!

If a person MUST use sources, they should stick to biased websites and pundits who they are sure agree with them about the liberal scourge. That, or selectively chosen parts of the Bible. A little Old Tesement wrath is all you need to understand the modern world.

Investigation of reality is totally unnessecary... and scary!

After all...

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Reality has a well known liberal bias.
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Posted:  02 Oct 2007 15:32
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Reality has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert



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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  02 Oct 2007 16:20
Pak, I must disagree with you: Moron isn't strong enough. Someone who discounts outside info is no patriot. He's a traitor. One of the foundations this republic was founded on was the necessity of an informed citizenry. For someone to eschew the news and history is truly anti-american.

You can't really support the troops without attempting to understand the nation they defend and the world we send them into.

What a joke.
Posted:  02 Oct 2007 16:27
I don't think he's really a moron or traitor Cap. Just someone sharing views on here like the rest of us. His post was dumb under the scrutiny of fact, but this is the same guy who could only come up with anti liberal and anti atheist jokes to be heard originally. At least he has an opinion now, whether it was just to rile people up or tell a joke of sorts or if he actually believes it.

Spewing rhetoric and being uninformed aren't actionable defenses. Cut the wingnut some slack.
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  02 Oct 2007 16:34
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Cut the wingnut some slack


Well, I probably won't post about anything he types, unless he gets into some factual territory. I'm sick of this country being stuck on stupid, and I think it's moronic, unsubstantiated opinion mongers (on both sides) spreading filth and ignorance that help keep us here.

And I need some coffee.
Posted:  02 Oct 2007 16:35
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Exactly. It is good enough to just sit in one's basement and use the internet to explain why one particular group of people are all totally evil or delusional. None of them are right about anything! Ever!
Danny, you just described every liberal on here. You all seem to have it in for Christian conservatives, and practically worship any and all liberal causes. At least for the most part anyway. I don't know for sure how many of you libs live in your mother's basement though, and I want ask if you don't tell.
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Posted:  02 Oct 2007 16:46
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Danny, you just described every liberal on here. You all seem to have it in for Christian conservatives, and practically worship any and all liberal causes. At least for the most part anyway. I don't know for sure how many of you libs live in your mother's basement though, and I want ask if you don't tell.


Again, I just have problems with those who want to legislate from the pulpit and blur the line between state and church.

I don't worship anything.

And I don't live in my mother's basement; I live in your's. Well, I keep my stuff there, son.
Posted:  02 Oct 2007 17:01
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And I don't live in my mother's basement; I live in your's. Well, I keep my stuff there, son.
That's kind of sad, since I don't actually have a basement. It's all dirt under my house.

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I don't worship anything.
yes, you do, everybody worships something even if it's themselves.
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Posted:  02 Oct 2007 17:05
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es, you do, everybody worships something even if it's themselves.


No. I don't worship anything. You do, but I don't. That's why I'm called an atheist.
Posted:  02 Oct 2007 18:53
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Danny, you just described every liberal on here

It's statements like that that get you the less civil replies you've received Tim, at least from me.

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practically worship any and all liberal causes. At least for the most part anyway

Liberals worship theirs, conservatives worship theirs. Another great reason to eliminate the titles and have everyone actually think about a topic independently.

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You all seem to have it in for Christian conservatives
No sir, just the religious mafia who treat their faith like Amway, won't take a polite no for an answer, and insist that what they believe is more important than what I believe and deserves to inundate every aspect of everyone else's lives simply for what they read in a book.

You're giving off that 'whole world's against me' vibe again. Supposed to be fun and informative, remember?
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  02 Oct 2007 22:09
Pardon me. It really isn't about the basement.

My point is that you can't just announce something totally off the wall and expect a good response without doing some research or at least giving some examples.

Do I think this needs to be a class on research methods? No. But it would be really boring if we didn't challenge each other to back things up. Have you seen the Craig's List message boards? They just hurl insults back and forth. People frequently seem to forget what they're debating. 

So lets get constructive.

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GOParty, I find your claims somewhat dubious, but I am interested in learning what has led you to this point of view. Would you be so kind as to revisit your list and provide some evidence for your claims? Please refrain from using partisan websites. Primary sources such as speeches, bi-partisan commissions or government generated statistics are preferred. 

If a particular item is too subjective or hypothetical- please walk us through your logic and we will attempt to debate the matter with more broad historical and philosophical references.

Thank you for your post. We await your reply.

Sincerely,

Danny
Posted:  02 Oct 2007 22:23
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No. I don't worship anything. You do, but I don't. That's why I'm called an atheist.
Then I guess you are worshipping yourself as god.

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It's statements like that that get you the less civil replies you've received Tim, at least from me.
Wasn't Danny saying the same thing about conservatives, or did I miss something?

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No sir, just the religious mafia who treat their faith like Amway
And I suppose all liberal groups are angels who only want the very best for humanity as long as it is without God. This hate toward religion is amazing and quite illogical.

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Have you seen the Craig's List message boards? They just hurl insults back and forth. People frequently seem to forget what they're debating. 
Right, and the point gets lost, and anybody reading doesn't really care about the points being argued about.

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Please refrain from using partisan websites
That might be kind of hard since some of you guys think even Fox news is too biased.
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Posted:  02 Oct 2007 22:27
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Then I guess you are worshipping yourself as god.


That would be your mother who does that. KIDDING! Of course, I don't worship myself. I don't put anything on that high a pedestal.
Posted:  02 Oct 2007 22:45
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Wasn't Danny saying the same thing about conservatives, or did I miss something?

At that exact moment, the post you responded to, was Danny being a touch sarcastic to GOParty. You really missed something.

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And I suppose all liberal groups are angels who only want the very best for humanity as long as it is without God. This hate toward religion is amazing and quite illogical


Here we go with the BS again. Why are you saying that all liberals are godless? Why do you even have this competition of a political group vs a religious group?

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some of you guys think even Fox news is too biased.

Could be because they are. Next.
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles