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| Posted: 28 Apr 2009 20:11 |
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Specter >is< a specter. I can't imagine anyone wanting that ghoul running around. Go ahead and run your campaign.
As for Franken, you're too late-he got the job already.
__________________But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
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| Posted: 29 Apr 2009 17:19 |
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I'm looking at it from the bright side. At least we are getting rid of a liberal pretending to be a republican. Now maybe we will at least have a guy running who is really conservative. I wish all the liberals would go dem then we could tell the good ones from the bad easier. Last few years you can't tell the conservatives from the libs without a score card, and most of them don't want you to know where they stand.
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| Posted: 29 Apr 2009 23:11 |
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Just out of curiosity, since Specter is going to be voting and acting exactly the same as he did before, how does changing the label from R to D make him something new?
__________________But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
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| Posted: 30 Apr 2009 01:29 |
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Tim, I hope Arlen Specter's party change outrages you. It should for two reasons:
First--Specter claimed it was philosophical--and pointed his finger of blame at Republicans all over America for his defection to the Democrats. He told us all to go jump in the lake today.
I'm sorry, but I don't believe a word he said.
Arlen Specter committed a purely political and self-serving act today. He simply believes he has a better chance of saving his political hide and his job as a Democrat. He loves the title of Senator more than he loves the party--and the principles--that elected him and nurtured him.
Second--and more importantly--Arlen Specter handed Barack Obama and his band of radical leftists nearly absolute power in the United States Senate. In leaving the Republican Party--and joining the Democrats--he absolutely undercut Republicans's efforts to slow down Obama's radical agenda through the threat of filibuster.
Facing defeat in Pennsylvania's 2010 Republican primary due to his left-wing voting record, and an end to his 30 year career in the U.S. Senate, he has peddled his services--and his vote--to the leftist Obama Democrats who aim to remake America with their leftist plan.
As recently as April 9th, Senator Specter said he would run in the Pennsylvania primary next year as a Republican. Why the sudden change of heart? Clearly, this was an act based on political expediency by a craven politician desperate to keep his Washington power base--not the act of a statesman.
His defection to the Democrat Party puts the Democrats in an almost unstoppable position to pass Obama's destructive agenda of income redistribution, health care nationalization, and a massive expansion of entitlements.
Arlen Specter has put his loyalty to his own political career above his duty to his state and nation.
You and I have a choice. Some will use Specter's defection as an excuse to fold the tent and give up. I believe that you are not one of those people. When Benedict Arnold defected to the British, George Washington didn't fold the tent and give up either.
He grit his teeth more determined than ever to succeed. That's what I'm asking you to do today.
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| Posted: 30 Apr 2009 06:32 |
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So, no difference then?
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| Posted: 30 Apr 2009 15:48 |
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how does changing the label from R to D make him something new? I don't think it will have that much effect on anything other than give the dems a little more confidence to push their agendas.
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Tim, I hope Arlen Specter's party change outrages you. Not really GOParty, not like I said good riddance. I hope all liberally voting republicans go to the dems. That just makes it easier for us to get more conservatives in the running. If the dem and the republican is a big government liberal how are we ever going to get conservatives back in power? So this is a good thing really. It's kind of like we just got rid of a liberal spy that's been hurting us from the inside. We've had a lot of that in the republican party over the last few years. That's why the dems took over. We need honest to goodness conservatives who actually believe conservatism is the way to go. We don't need no more phoney baloneys in power.
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We don't need no more phoney baloneys in power.
The two party system has been bogus for decades. If you want to get rid of the phoneys, start with the phoney system they're a part of.
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And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
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| Posted: 30 Apr 2009 21:00 |
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Well the two-party system would work better if each party stood more close in line to their core beliefs and not play games. That way we could have honest debates on the issues and everybody would know where everbody stood.
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| Posted: 30 Apr 2009 23:27 |
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If we lived in times where there could be two groups who could be counted on to look at every single issue from opposing viewpoints to achieve the best solution for all involved, yes that system could actually work.
We don't live in such times anymore. There is a good side to this in that we can actually see more than two sides to any argument-this would actually be something of a plea for more than two parties maybe. On the negative side, we have a legal system that's more like a layer cake than a simple set of rules about right and wrong and this is married to a tax code that's so convuluted that nobody knows everything that's in it and mix that up with every type of self interested media entertainment we have and a money counterfeiting operation running the whole show. 'Right and Wrong' aren't even options anymore in modern legislature. I haven't even touched the fact or factor of corruption yet and it's already a shot system(the best invented yet, but still in flames).
Bottom line? Specter changing from a R to a D was done in self interest and it's meaningless-he's still the same asshole he was last week.
__________________But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
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| Posted: 01 May 2009 14:40 |
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Well I agree with you on that.
I also see your point about the 2 party system. I'm not sure if getting rid of it would help or just confuse politics even more.
If you took away parties there really wouldn't be any guarantee there would be less corruption. In fact we might make things worse. There's no real way of knowing unless we did it, and that's probably not going to happen. A strong 3rd party might help shake things up a bit.
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| Posted: 01 May 2009 20:35 |
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Take a look at that Canadian debate Spock had listed a ways back- six or seven(I forget) voices in a major debate. I'll be bold enough to say that through that collection of people, every Canadian was represented by someone at that table.
It's not even that we don't have these other parties already either. On my ballot, there were the Libertarians and two socialist parties along with the two 'main' ones(and maybe another one or two I don't recall). The real problem is that these 'lesser' groups are not given the same platform or the same consideration with the other two. Whether the blame lies specifically on the media, big industry, Washington itself or the electoral colleges system is all a big blur to me. I just know clearly the system is busted and due for an overhaul.
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| Posted: 01 May 2009 23:21 |
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Well I was just watching Beck on Fox, and he asked a group of tea partiers do you believe in the two party system. I was surprised nobody raised their hand.
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| Posted: 02 May 2009 13:15 |
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The glamour of it is wearing off and people are starting to come out of their stupors hopefully.
__________________But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
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