The memorandum reverses the "Mexico City policy," initiated by President Reagan in 1984, canceled by President Clinton and reinstated by President George W. Bush in 2001.
The policy, referred to by critics as "the global gag rule," was initially announced at a population conference in Mexico City.
Reversing the previous administrations' stance on the policy was one of Clinton's first acts as president in January 1993 and the very first executive order issued by Bush on January 22, 2001, the 28th anniversary of Roe v. Wade.
So basically I think we are going to end up paying taxes to kill babies in Mexico. Wow if that's not some kind of racist unconstitutional policy I don't know what is. It's bad enough to allow abortions but to make us pay for it. In other countries no less.
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The first vid quote mined Obama, as his 'promise' was to try and reduce unwanted pregnancies through sex education, thus reducing the use of abortion.
It also paints it as though he was going out of his way to look for companies or groups that promote abortion as birth control. Really not the case. Here's the Wikipedia entry. Look at the scope and debate of the policy.
If you wanted something to go after, why not find out why we're giving public funds to other countries at all to begin with? That is if what you're upset with is the spending in the first place.
Also, our President, while campaigning, promised us more transparency and basically kept this low on the radar. I don't want to make more of that than I should as it's not like he kept us from finding out at all, but we were promised transparency and that looked like the start of deciding exactly what becomes transparent or not. __________________
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Quote: If you wanted something to go after, why not find out why we're giving public funds to other countries at all to begin with? That is if what you're upset with is the spending in the first place.
I reckon you can be angry about something for two different reasons. All the more reason to be angry at Obama's policy.
I see this as something only the die hard liberal abortion crowd would get behind. People who care so much about abortion they don't even consider the debt we are in as a nation. __________________
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People don't need to be die-hard liberals to take issue with this particular gag rule. Of course they're not paying attention to the national debt. They've been trained by our government to become dependant on these programs to such an extent that they don't look like social programs-much like how it escaped me not so long ago that our school system is actually a social program where the government benefits by making dependants.
There are also actual issue with how the givernment is ok handing out funds up until this line of imposed morality. While you can see that it's not our government's job to provide contraception(which you're right on, strictly on the concept alone), the damage has been done. We'd already been giving away these funds in the first place. To just stop with the platform of 'you guys should just keep it in your pants' and the only line between an organization keeping it's funding being that they provide abortion counceling or services, whether or not the public funds are actually used for anything to do with abortion itself, is irresponsible. It's easy to recognize that we'd be better off if our government just backed up and out of everything except defense-lip service and platitudes won't get that done the right way. __________________
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I just don't get it. Why would we pay for abortions in other countries? Don't we got enough economic problems? Man the logic these liberals use blows my mind. __________________
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I think you're missing the forest for the trees Steve, but if you didn't pick that up from what I've already said, I don't know how else to reach you. __________________
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Moral of the story is. We shouldn't send money to other countries for any reason unless it can be proven to directly effect the state of America's well being. I think we all agree on that.
We most likely all agree the government shouldn't be spending money on abortions at all.
Where we most likely disagree on is whether or not abortions should even be allowed period. To me abortion equals murder.
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Quote: To me abortion equals murder.
After all we've been through on the subject, you're still sitting in the same place? I did agree with your other statements if it consoles any. __________________
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Of course, you didn't think I would ever change my opinion on abortion did you?
I do appreciate the fact that you let me know when you do agree with me though. Hate to think we disagree on everything. __________________
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Actually, funny enough, the only things we seriously disagree on can be linked to religion in some way(and that black Captain America thing, but I think that's about it). __________________
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Well I guess that's true. Of course I still think there are very logical reasons for what I believe even if they weren't in the Bible. But that's another argument for another day I guess. I'm about ready to go play some football. __________________
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