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Posted:  13 Jan 2009 13:26

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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  13 Jan 2009 19:19
Israel has the right to defend itself. This guy irks me. Let's hear some negative comments about the terrorists from this guy.
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Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
Posted:  13 Jan 2009 21:50
Israel is bombing schools in retaliation to Palestine defending itself(not very well actually, but they've said pretty clearly they want to be left alone). Either you're saying Palestine has no right to defend itself or you're ignoring that the real source of 'terror' lately is actually Israel.
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  14 Jan 2009 14:09
Here's a report by CNN, through TYT explaining how your hapless defenders Israel are using white phospherus on the Palestinians.


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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  14 Jan 2009 15:50
Well it looks like you and Bin Laden are on the same page on this.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090114/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_al_qaida_israel

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Al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden urged Muslims to launch a jihad against Israel and condemned Arab governments as allies of the Jewish state in a new message aimed at harnessing anger in the Mideast over the Gaza offensive.


Look if Israel hits a school it's because some jack ass terrorist is on the roof shooting missiles at them.
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Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
Posted:  15 Jan 2009 00:38
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Well it looks like you and Bin Laden are on the same page on this.

Let's see. Do I take that personal as you adding Terrorist or Terrorist Sympathizer to the resume' you've created for me? Do I try and point out that you're avoiding the real issue of Israel being in the wrong in the first place? Should I try to convince you that 'terror' is a media device and not a real thing to begin with? Should I sympathize actually with Bin Laden's camp and say that perhaps his call for Jihad is justified? Should I be pointing out that we're not getting the full story here at home on everything that's going in the world, much less the religiously fueled death rally called the Middle East, much less true perspective from our media outlets here about our enemies and allies? Should I start a rant on the dangers of religion?

You tell me which way you want me to respond and I'll oblige it best as I can.

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Look if Israel hits a school it's because some jack ass terrorist is on the roof shooting missiles at them.

I'll give you the opportunity to at least think that through again and maybe edit it before I respond.
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  15 Jan 2009 18:02   Last Edited By: Tim
Look I point out that you share the opinion of Bin Laden as to show that the bad guys are not on the side of Israel. Thus that's at least one more good reason to be on their side.

You should also consider all the crazies that strap bombs to themselves and go to town in Israel. I've not yet heard of any Jews going over there on their side with suicide bombs.

Israel is our ally. There are lots of reasons not to jump all over Israel. Is America going to be at odds with Israel on specifics sometimes, probably, but the fact is they are still the good guys, and we have to be careful how we approach this otherwise the bad guys get way to cocky.
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Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
Posted:  15 Jan 2009 20:40
Ok, so we're supposed to ignore Israel's murderous rampage on these people because Bin Laden is against them and it's better to err on the side away from the terrorist who used to be our friend. You're way misguided on this one Tim.

This crap with you and suicide bombers is unnerving too. Is that all you think of when you hear the Middle East or Muslims?

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Israel is our ally. There are lots of reasons not to jump all over Israel.

THEY'RE BURNING INNOCENT PEOPLE ALIVE WITH FUCKING PHOSPHERUS IN AN ORCHESTRATED INVASION. Are you kidding me? Just because they're allies we're supposed to look the other way when we want to get involved in every other scrape on the planet and start a half dozen more? ISRAEL ARE NOT THE GOOD GUYS WITH THIS. Get it through your head man. You might be misinformed(which is odd with how much I post for you guys to look at and get informed with) or you might be blissfully ignorant of it, but I think you're really just tuning it out. We're having a pretty lively discussion in the other thread about a mother 'murdering' an unborn child and you've got this big hardline stance against it because it's 'murder plain and simple' but you can't even recognize that what Israel is doing is killing dozens of people at a time and injuring countless others in an attempt to silence a religious enemy? This is just a matter of them 'taking care of business' to you? You've got to be kidding(please tell me you weren't serious).
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  15 Jan 2009 23:56
Look those same people you fuss about killing are probably the same people that would tie a bomb around their own kid and send them into Israel.

Second those people got to know that underneath their city are a bunch of terrorist. If those suckers weren't hiding underneath the buildings it wouldn't be so hard to blast them out.

Third of course I don't like kids or any innocent people getting killed, but if you are going to get mad about this you ought be mad when they strap bombs to kids or make their own kiddie shows encouraging kids to kill Jews.
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Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
Posted:  16 Jan 2009 02:52
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of course I don't like kids or any innocent people getting killed


Let's compare that to the first part of the same post.

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those same people you fuss about killing


Wherever you're getting your info from, it's messing you up in the head. It doesn't matter at this point if it's Fox or Rush or some stupid newsletter.

This obsession with people strapping bombs to themselves or others is rediculous as well. It's in your head. In your first sentence there, you say they're:
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probably the same people that would tie a bomb around their own kid

and by the end of this slim post they, without question:
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strap bombs to kids

You're messed up.

If you feel like discussing reality sometime, let me know.
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  16 Jan 2009 15:58
Dude everybody knows Israel gets attacked by suicide bombers all the time. Everybody also knows about the indoctrination of kids into suicide bombers.



So what do you do when the women and children carry machine guns and point them at you? Give em a cookie and send them on their way. It's beyond sad, but the fact is Israel has to defend herself against a threat just as bad as the Nazis.

There's a lot more of news clips on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=terrorists+kid+show&s ...
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Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
Posted:  16 Jan 2009 22:03
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but the fact is Israel has to defend herself against a threat just as bad as the Nazis.


Israel is invading Gaza, not defending itself. Israel are the Nazis today.
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  17 Jan 2009 19:32
You apparently didn't watch the video.
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Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
Posted:  17 Jan 2009 21:46
You apparently missed where I posted similar videos over a year ago. You also seem to be ignoring what Israel's actually doing lately.
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  17 Jan 2009 21:59

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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  18 Jan 2009 14:18
and furthermore...

Israeli FM confronted by Press Club journalists


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Journalists' microphones turned off when Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni challenged in Washington



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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  19 Jan 2009 17:40
So how would you handle a group of people that kept trying to kill you over and over and over again for years and years? I feel much more comfortable trusting Israel knowing what kind of people they are up against. These people are teaching their kids to hate and to be suicide bombers. These people have some severe issues.
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Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
Posted:  19 Jan 2009 21:39
I think you're mixing up the Palestinians with Hamas for starters.

Second, they have been at each others' throats for a very long time. One of the benefits of religion, and make no mistake on this, the fight is about religion.

Last, Israel is committing war crimes. There's no excuse.
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles